Tuesday, November 15, 2011

Blog #4- Nature vs Nurture

The novel The Outsiders begs the question, are we a product of nature (how we are born) or nurture (what environment we are raised in)? Discuss whether you think the Greasers and Socs are products of nature or nurture. You need to discuss both the Socs and the Greasers, so you should have at least two paragraphs (a minimum of 5 sentences!).


Be sure to include specific examples from the text to support your theory. For example (and you cannot use mine in your response): I believe that Johnny is a product of nurture. I believe this because he was very timid because of the abuse he suffered at the hands of his father.


This is due on Tuesday, November 22. Good luck!

31 comments:

  1. I think that the Greasers are nurture. I think that they are nurture because I think of the way they were raised. Like Jonny how he was beat. Also Soda is Jonny’s brother and their in the same family so even though Soda was not beat it took some effect on him. They are both part of the Greasers!
    I think the Socs are nature. They are popular. They have the looks and style. Everybody likes them in school. And they are smart. They have the nicest cars, and everyone wishes they could be them. They are like this because of their environment.

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  2. I believe that people are a product of nurture. The Socs are raised in a non-caring environment, so they are non-caring themselves. To be a caring, sensitive person, you have to be raised by those type of people. Bob, from the Socs wanted someone, anyone, to say no, to care about what he does and says. But since no one ever did, he was horrible to other people, because he wasn’t brought up to care. Cherry apparently was brought up by a great caring family, because she doesn’t tolerate fighting and can care for people that are different then her.
    The Greasers were brought up in real loving families. Soda, Pony, and Dally had their parents. When they died Dally took care of Soda and Pony because Dally was raised by his loving, thoughtful,caring parents. They can care for their friends and family, and are able to forgive. Just because you’re in one social class or another, doesn’t mean that you have to be rue or careless. Parents and your environment teach you to be loving, caring and forgiving.

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    1. Soda, Pony, and Dally had their parents. When they died Dally took care of Soda and Pony because Dally was raised by his loving, thoughtful,caring parents. (thats what you wrote) It should be Darry, not Dally

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  3. The Greasers are the way that they are because they were born that way. Darry’s, Pony’s and sodapop’s parents were killed in an automobile accident. When they were killed Darry is the oldest so he took over and started caring for Pony and Sodapop by not going to college and getting a job. The reason they steel stuff is because they are poor because nature took their parents and they have very little money.

    The Socs have the choice to do what they are doing. The socs have money and the greasers don’t and they take advantage of that. They beat up the Greasers just because they can and think they are better then them. When the socs pull up to the curb and ponyboy Johnny and two-bit is with their “girlfriends” the girl says that “if I see you in the hall at school or someplace and don’t say hi, well, its not personal or anything but... we couldn’t let our parents see with you all. You’re a nice boy and everything…”. They think because they have parents that are their, live in a different spot and have money that they shouldn’t socialize with the “Greasers”.

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  4. The Greasers were nurtured. They fought, smoked, drank, and dropped out of school. They were taught to do that. Their older brothers taught them how to act badly. They had no parents to watch for them, take care of them, and teach them how to act responsible.

    The Socs were also nurtured. They fought, smoked, drank, but stayed in school. Parents didn’t teach them these things. But the parents didn’t care what they did, so they weren’t learning how to act or not act. They let them do whatever. If the parents taught them to be responsible, they would be better kids and not be fighting.

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  5. Nature vs. Nurture blog
    Jesse caskey
    In my opinion for the nature vs. nurture blog I think that the greasers are nature. I think they are nature because they were born into a lower social class. They don’t have much money so to get things they have to steal it if they want it bad enough. And since they were lower class if the socs and greasers got in a fight the socs wouldn’t get into trouble because they had money and the people who have money don’t get into trouble as much. I also think that because they saw people doing things like smoking and drinking so they saw it and picked it up as a habit.

    In my opinion for socs it was nurture because there parents taught them more. And the socs parents actually had some heart but not really. So instead of teaching them not to get drunk and smoke and get into fights. the parents really only taught them to stay in school and get good grades. I think they were also nurtured because they had a good place to live and good food to eat when the greasers didn’t have all those good things.

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  6. I think that the Greasers were nature. only becuase in their life, they all do the same thing and act the same way. they all think it's a tradtion to have greasy hair and dress the same and act all tough.

    I think the Socs are nurture. I think this becuase all the Socs act the way that their group of freinds act. They all do what one another of their piers do. For example, if the Socs were to liev and grow up in a nicer community that they live in, then maybe they would act the way the nice people do and they wouldnt act so stuck up all the time.

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  7. I think the Socs and Greasers are a product of nurture. The Greasers are like hoods because that's all the life they know. Since a lot of kids are in gangs they are in one. They wouldn't be the same people if they lived maybe in the country or if they had better family lives. For example, Dally wouldn't be staying at people's houses and moving around if he had good parents that cared about him. He also wouldn't have been getting into trouble. So, your environment affects what you act like and who you are.

    The Socs are a product of nurture. Just like the Greasers, their environment affects who they are. If the Socs had parents that took the time to be with them and teach them right from wrong and discipline them they wouldn't be getting into trouble. For example, Cherry said that Bob could be sweet and friendly. Randy said that Bob's parents never said no to him. He also said if his old man had belted him he might still be alive. It's good to keep in mind that your associates have a powerful influence on you. They can help you to be a better person or a terrible person.

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  8. When it comes to the book the outsiders I think that each character has a little bit of both in them. They’re all born to be a certain type of person, and I think how they were raised have an equal effect on the person that they are in the novel.

    The Socs are described as cold people with no hearts that only care about themselves, but the book also shows another side to them. Randy lost his best friend and decided not to fight in the rumble because he thought that the fighting needed to stop. What Randy did shows that it wasn’t the way he was raised that causes him to make that decision it was how he was born; the type of person he is. Also when Randy described how all Bob wanted was someone to tell him “no” that shows that Bob was raised to think that he could do anything he wanted, he didn’t have discipline, and that caused him to be so mean and jump Johnny, and Pony boy.

    The Greasers are generally closer with each other than the Socs, but to society they come off as bad people. Johnny gets abused by his father and his mother acts like she hates him; I think that Johnny was born to act the way he does. He’s a smart kid, and cares about his friends and tries to protect them. I think that Darry is so hard on Pony boy because he has to be. After their parents died he had to step up to keep their family together.

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  9. In the book The Outsiders I think that Greasers and Socs are mainly a product of nurture.

    The Greasers are a product of nurture because of the things they have been exposed to. When other Greasers, like Soda, drop out of school you are going to be influenced to drop out of school. If every other Greaser smokes, like Johnny, Two- bit, and Soda, then you will most likely smoke like Ponyboy does. If you are exposed to abuse at home or violence, like Johnny a lot then you will be jumpy or carry things for defense or think fighting is alright.

    I think the Socs are also a product of nurture. I think this because if you get away with everything and never get in trouble for anything, like Bob, then you will think you can do anything. Or you may even try to see how much you can do before you get in trouble, which could be a lot. Also if you see other Socs jumping people all the time, like Bob and Randy, then you will think you should have to do it too so you can fit in.

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  10. I think that the Greasers are products of nurture. I think that because because if Johnny had grown up with parents that didn't abuse him, Johnny probably wouldn't have given up fighting to live in the hospital. Also Ponyboy has two older brothers that raised him and even when Pony din't think that Darry loved him, both Darry and Soda loved Pony. Another example is that Darry could have been a Soc and he decided not to be so that he didn't have to fight his brothers and Darry gave up going to college to go and take care of Pony and Soda when their parents died. Also Dally was hardened by going to jail. And Two-Bit is always fooling around so that he doesn't have face reality.

    I also think that the Socs are products of products of nurture. In the case of Bob, all he wanted was someone to stand up to him and tell him no and nobody did and that caused his death. If his parents would have stood up and punished him instead of assuming it was something that they did. That would have stopped him from being drunk and jumping Pony and Johnny. And with Randy, he didn't fight in the rumble because he was tired of the violence that just goes in a never-ending circle. And Cherry's family must be very caring because she can stand fighting and violence.

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  11. In the story the Greasers are nurture do to the people they grow up around. The Greasers see people being jumped by the Socs. When Johnny is jumped by the Socs he becomes more jumpy and starts to carry a switchblade. Also because some of the Greasers are abused by their parents so they are not home and hang out on the streets. The Greasers are nurture because they do not have a lot of money so they may have to steal to survive. Greasers are also seen as worse then the Socs because they do not have a lot of money and are like hoodlums.

    In the story the Socs are nature do to their families being wealthy. The Socs have madras and Mustangs do to their families having money and being wealthy since they were born. They are seen to be good and better then the Greasers do to being clean cut and rich. The Socs do not care about anything or anyone but themselves. The Socs are also born to be mean and to want to jump or beat up the Greasers.

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  12. In the story The Outsiders the Socs are a part of nature. I think this because they were all born into wealthy families. They all have fancy clothes and fancy cars, like madras and Mustangs. The Socs also have no feelings towards anyone, such as love. They are mean to people and beat up the Greasers all the time.

    The Greasers on the other hand are nurtured into the way they are. All of the greasers are basically poor, but they all have a love for each other like no other. They treat each other like they are all family. When the Socs mess with any of the greasers, all of the greasers in their gang attack them. So in a way, they stick up for one another no matter what.

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  13. I pick nature for the Greasers. I picked this because Pony is nice and he grew up in a bad neighborhood. All the other Greasers are mostly nice also, even though they always get in to fights. The fights do not change the Greasers. These are some of the ways that the Greasers are a product of nature.

    I pick nurture for the Socs. I pick this because the Socs have money, but they still get into fights. They also have families that are nice to them, but they are still mean to people. The Socs also grew up in a good neighborhood, but are still mean. These are some of the reasons that I picked nurture for the Socs.

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  14. Dear Katera,
    I really enjoyed your blog, I thought it was wonderful how you described the Socs and the Greasers.
    Much love..Kylie[:

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  15. Dearest Kylie Ann,
    I liked your blog about the Socs and the Greasers. I liked how you added details from the story to support your answers. Great job Bro.
    Sincerely Kateraa.

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  16. Janai- Yours was awesome. You described how the people were a product of nurture well. you did a great job.

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  17. I think that the greasers are nature because they do not have money and they have too live with pretty much the bare minimum. They have too live with fun games that they have too make up. They have really bad cars and if not any cars. This is why the greasers are nature.

    The Socs are nuture because there parents shower them with money and cars and expensive items. They just stay in a pack and do not care for eachother. They beat up people in 5 on 1 situations and are jerks. Socs are pampered on everything. They are handed anything.

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  18. Kylie, I agree with you that they're a little bit of both. The Socs are suppose to be heart-less, but some of them aren't. Good Job!!! :)

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  19. Brandon,
    I like how you described the Greasers being raised by their brothers and not by their parents. I also like that you said that the Socs had no responsibility.

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  20. Janai,

    I think you did a good job of explaining the reason for nurture and nature,
    Good job.

    Jon.

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  21. Dear Jon,
    I liked the way you described the Socs. I also thought the description of the Greasers was good. GOOD JOB!!!:)
    Your best friend,
    JANAI(:

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  22. Jesse, I agree with your blog. I think that nature is why the greasers act the way they do and nurture is why the Socs act the way they do. I also like the examples that you gave.

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  23. I agree with you Amber, people are the product of nurture. And I liked your descriptions of the reasons why people are products of nurture.

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  24. Hey Emily, i think are totally right! The Greasers and Socs are both part of nurture. I agree that Bob wouldn't have been dead if he had been told no by his parents.

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  25. I think that the Socs are a product of nuture. This is because the people that they are raised with are good, nice, and caring people who stay in school and have a lot of money, but they can also be mean and jump the greasers wich they are also raised up around. If they are raised around people like this than they will be brought up like this also. The Socs are deffenatly products of nurture.

    I also think that the Greasers are products of nurture. This is because they are brought up around people that smoke, drink, fight and dont stay in school. Because of this they will also do these things. They dress like the people they grew up around and act like them. I think that both the Socs and the Greasers are products of nurture. Both of them were raised by people that all acted the same and now they do to just like them. They pretty much do all the same things that there parents did when they were in high school.

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  26. Jania, i think you did a good job on explainging the differences between the Socs and the Greasers. I also liked how you think the Socs and Greasers are both nurture.
    Love youuuuuuuu(:

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  27. Janai, I think that you were right about the Socs and the Greasers both bieng products of nurture. I thought the same thing. NIICCEE JOBB.[=

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  28. The Greasers and Socs were nurtured. This is because if the socs were not nurtured they would not be so cruel to the greasers. They would probably be them if they were in the same positions. They also would not be jumping people and have a closer relationship with their friends. They also might not be so self centered if they were not given everything they asked for.
    If the greasers were in the socs position they they would not be the way they are, like shown as criminals. They would also have different values. For example, if they were raised as socs they they probably would not have a close relationship with their brothers and friends as they would as greasers. They also might have had better goals like doing good in school because they were expected to. It might have been harder because they had to live up to people high expectations and as greasers, people didn't care because they already saw them as criminals.

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  29. Kylie, i agree with your blog. I like how you said they both have a little bit of both.

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